Sub-group meetings January 2005

13 Jan 2005

Infrastructure

 

Present           John Partridge, Nick Kitchen, Pete Rollings, Dave Nicholson, Dave                                     Holman.

 

John outlined the purpose of the group was to inform the Forum with recommendations for improvements, additions and new scheme as part of the City’s cycle network.

A discussion took place about where the focus of a future network should be. From the discussion the following routes where identified as a priority

 

NCN Route 81 was highlighted, particularly the quality of the route and the reluctance at the moment for Sustrans to include the W’ton section as a completed section. Concern was expressed by WoWCC that neither WCC Sustrans nor BWB were taking the lead on investigating or funding the necessary work to have the route accepted to standard. Nick and Pete have ridden parts of the route with Perminder Balu (Sustrans) but have had no feedback so far but have a forthcoming meeting with BWB 28/01/05 and would raise this as a issue. NK to feedback ASAP

  •          Littles Lane/Lock St – Acces to Springfield Brewery
  •          Lighting on Towpath – Horseley Fields
  •          Link through Brewery Site to Cannock Road
  •          Parallel path has been upgraded along 21 Locks
  •          Canal link to Wobaston Road to be under road on towpath not via Barnhurst Lane,Signing to be addressed

Links with Shires – WoWCC would like to see the potential for cross boundary trips into/out of the City addressed. These included:-

  •          A link to Wombourne from Warstones Road along the service road on A449. Only minor works required
  •          Perton to Tettenhall centre
  •          Pendeford to Pendeford Mill Lane via the Shropshire Union Canal
  •          Bradley to Sandwell via Wilkinson Ave

NK to contact Districts and discuss ways of moving these issues forward.

 

Other issues discussed 

Canalside Quarter  WoWCC were impressed by consultants proposals for the area but were unsure of how much of the sustainability element was likely to be retained as the development proposals progress. NK to find out current thinking on site

 

Cycle Centre  developers from Holland keen to promote cycle use in retail core development. NK to find out further details

Access through Pedestrianised area – City Centre and Bilston High Street.

 

Miscellaneous Schemes for action in the short term

Worcester Street – review and improve existing markings. Address parking on footway o/s White Mountain

Molineux Subway – Improve signing/lining from City end

Walsall street – Complete link to Bilston Island through to City Centre

City Centre banned right turns – NK to assess cost and appropriate design and reply to WoWCC as part of letter from Cllr Jaspal .

Road Closure links – NK to supply copy of drawing to WoWCC.

Cycle Parking – Market Square and Dudley Street

 

20 Jan 2005

Leisure and Training

 

Present           Nick Kitchen, John Partridge, Pete Rollings, Richard Welch,                                          David Holman, David Nicholson

 

Pete gave a brief outline of the existing cycle proficiency training. The scheme was Primary School based, aimed at Year 6 children. The training gave the children a certificate in safe cycling, was run by volunteers, and trained approx 1500 children a year.

 

The new National Standards are to be introduced soon. These will train children to level 3 and give them more confidence as a road cyclist. The proposals will require CTC qualified instructors to undertake the training. At present the qualification is suitable for adult training only. The difficulty of finding suitably trained instructors and funding the hourly rate was of concern if the service is to be delivered. Some Authorities (Coventry, Luton) are charging £15 for the service. A discussion followed about how this service could be funded, including the possibility of providing capital infrastructure (bike rack, footpaths etc) and tying an element of training in with this.  The only difficulty the group could see with this approach was this only provides training for the year in which the Capital funding was available and would not be available afterwards.

 

The Group did feel that charging did add importance and weight to the training and parents would be more likely to support something they were paying for. Parents may also be drawn into family cycling as a result.

 

Payment from parents would also allow training to be undertaken at weekends or out of hours at times more suited to families. Lottery funding could be explored as part of matched funding for the scheme.

 

An Adult training leaflet has been published and 1500 have been sent out. There has been a disappointing response. Sandwell MBC have also encountered the same problem and a lack of take up. Primary Care Trust (PCT) unable to offer any financial support at present.

 

Cycle maintenance scheme can not proceed at present due to a lack of an organized cycle club willing to apply for funding (ABCD, Lottery).

 

Items for Action

  • Establish Safe Routes to School Programme and identify possible funding for training
  • Identify external funding for adult cycle training

 

 

20 Jan 2005

Communication and Monitoring

 

Present           Nick Kitchen, John Partridge, Pete Rollings, Richard Welch,                                          David Holman, David Nicholson

 

 

Richard brought a mock up of a proposed Leisure cycle leaflet. The aim was to target all aspects of cycle use including sport based in the one leaflet. The promotion of commuting, health and fitness were consistent with the message from Highways. The group felt that the publicity should be aimed at new or returning cyclists and should be geared to ‘come along and have a go’.

 

The promotion of an off road route along Valley Park could be tied into the supporting message of leisure and fitness. The route from either Aldersely Stadium or Tettenhall Station site could be promoted in short sections to encourage families and new cyclists. The route could be divided into time or distance sections for convenience. Web based maps via the Council site would make the map more accessible and easier to acquire.

 

A new cycle network leaflet was required and a discussion followed about what form this should take. The Cheltenham Cycle Map was regarded by WOWcc as a good example to follow. The map contained graded routes (5 grades) which required a increasing level of experience the higher the grade. The group thought that although this was helpful and utilised the entire highway network, the categorization was subjective and could be too confusing to the public. A suggested 2/3 levels of route would perhaps be easier to understand. A revised copy was to be worked up and should include leisure - car free routes in more detail.

 

The group agreed that monitoring was poor at present and little evidence of cycle usage was available except via the traditional traffic count system.  The group felt that local monitoring was important and that a system for achieving this should be explored. Other monitoring issues were also important and these could include the number of bike sold in the city, the number of cycle parked during the year. A comment about Variable Message Boards on approaches to the Ring Road carrying pro cycle messages will be explored.

 

Items for Action

  • Progress Leisure cycle leaflet. Identify costs and establish contribution from LTP cycle budget.
  • Establish off-road route for publication on Council’s website. Monitor usage/interest
  • Provide Draft copy/costs of new cycle network leaflet. New leaflet to be ready for issue June 2005.
  • Purchase portable cycle counting equipment. Equipment to on-site by June 2005

 

20 Jan 2005

Leisure and Training

 

Present           Nick Kitchen, John Partridge, Pete Rollings, Richard Welch,                                          David Holman, David Nicholson

 

Pete gave a brief outline of the existing cycle proficiency training. The scheme was Primary School based, aimed at Year 6 children. The training gave the children a certificate in safe cycling, was run by volunteers, and trained approx 1500 children a year.

 

The new National Standards are to be introduced soon. These will train children to level 3 and give them more confidence as a road cyclist. The proposals will require CTC qualified instructors to undertake the training. At present the qualification is suitable for adult training only. The difficulty of finding suitably trained instructors and funding the hourly rate was of concern if the service is to be delivered. Some Authorities (Coventry, Luton) are charging £15 for the service. A discussion followed about how this service could be funded, including the possibility of providing capital infrastructure (bike rack, footpaths etc) and tying an element of training in with this.  The only difficulty the group could see with this approach was this only provides training for the year in which the Capital funding was available and would not be available afterwards.

 

The Group did feel that charging did add importance and weight to the training and parents would be more likely to support something they were paying for. Parents may also be drawn into family cycling as a result.

 

Payment from parents would also allow training to be undertaken at weekends or out of hours at times more suited to families. Lottery funding could be explored as part of matched funding for the scheme.

 

An Adult training leaflet has been published and 1500 have been sent out. There has been a disappointing response. Sandwell MBC have also encountered the same problem and a lack of take up. Primary Care Trust (PCT) unable to offer any financial support at present.

 

Cycle maintenance scheme can not proceed at present due to a lack of an organized cycle club willing to apply for funding (ABCD, Lottery).

 

Items for Action

  • Establish Safe Routes to School Programme and identify possible funding for training
  • Identify external funding for adult cycle training

 

 

20 Jan 2005

Communication and Monitoring

 

Present           Nick Kitchen, John Partridge, Pete Rollings, Richard Welch,                                          David Holman, David Nicholson

 

 

Richard brought a mock up of a proposed Leisure cycle leaflet. The aim was to target all aspects of cycle use including sport based in the one leaflet. The promotion of commuting, health and fitness were consistent with the message from Highways. The group felt that the publicity should be aimed at new or returning cyclists and should be geared to ‘come along and have a go’.

 

The promotion of an off road route along Valley Park could be tied into the supporting message of leisure and fitness. The route from either Aldersely Stadium or Tettenhall Station site could be promoted in short sections to encourage families and new cyclists. The route could be divided into time or distance sections for convenience. Web based maps via the Council site would make the map more accessible and easier to acquire.

 

A new cycle network leaflet was required and a discussion followed about what form this should take. The Cheltenham Cycle Map was regarded by WOWcc as a good example to follow. The map contained graded routes (5 grades) which required a increasing level of experience the higher the grade. The group thought that although this was helpful and utilised the entire highway network, the categorization was subjective and could be too confusing to the public. A suggested 2/3 levels of route would perhaps be easier to understand. A revised copy was to be worked up and should include leisure - car free routes in more detail.

 

The group agreed that monitoring was poor at present and little evidence of cycle usage was available except via the traditional traffic count system.  The group felt that local monitoring was important and that a system for achieving this should be explored. Other monitoring issues were also important and these could include the number of bike sold in the city, the number of cycle parked during the year. A comment about Variable Message Boards on approaches to the Ring Road carrying pro cycle messages will be explored.

 

Items for Action

  • Progress Leisure cycle leaflet. Identify costs and establish contribution from LTP cycle budget.
  • Establish off-road route for publication on Council’s website. Monitor usage/interest
  • Provide Draft copy/costs of new cycle network leaflet. New leaflet to be ready for issue June 2005.
  • Purchase portable cycle counting equipment. Equipment to on-site by June 2005

 

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