Wolverhampton Cycle Forum
Thursday 15 October 2015, 6pm

Committee Room 1, Members’ Suite, Third Floor
Civic Centre, St Peter’s Square, Wolverhampton

Access to Civic Centre via entrance nearest Ring Road

Member notes for the forum are available by logging on.

There are also notes from the Infrastructure Meeting on 27/07/2015

 

 Notes by WCC TP : 

 Wolverhampton Cycle Forum

Notes of Meeting

Thursday 15 October 2015, 6pm

Committee Room 1, Members’ Suite, Third Floor
Civic Centre, St Peter’s Square, Wolverhampton

Present: Chris Terrell, Win Sutton, Jon Rice, Mike Jenkins, Tim Philpot, John Ray, San Worrall


1. Apologies

Councillor Martin Waite, Dave Wilson, Dave Clare

2. Minutes of the last meeting (16 July 2015)

These were reviewed and considered accurate

3. Matters Arising not covered elsewhere in agenda

Bee Lane: JRa raised concerns about the safety of the new cycle route in Bee Lane, specifically i) the location at which cyclists were expected to pass from the off-road path back onto the carriageway, ii) the conflict between cyclists moving slowly up the gradient to Wood lane and motorists following them, and iii) the manner of the route crossing Wood Lane. JRa also expressed concerns that the local PACT group had not been consulted prior to the implementation of the scheme.

TP advised that the Cycle Forum had been consulted on the scheme, and had welcomed it with suggestions for minor amendments. Also that the scheme had been through the Council’s standard consultation procedure which included Ward Councillors and the Police. He noted that there had been errors in the delivery of the scheme which had subsequently been rectified, and that as a result of JRa’s concerns, Nick Broomhall, the current Road Safety Manager had reviewed the scheme with local Police and had met JRa on site to discuss his concerns.

CT expressed that view that JRa’s concerns should be the focus of a review of the scheme and indicated that he would seek to arrange this through Wolves on Wheels.

The discussion also highlighted general concern that the level of consultation undertaken on schemes was insufficient and that this should be discussed in more detail at a future Forum meeting.

Finchfield Road Scheme: TP advised he had not followed up on the previous enquiry as to how successful this scheme had been in improving safety, but would do so for the next meeting.

SW expressed concern about cyclists being excluded from bus lanes following the recent implementation of camera enforcement, evidenced by a sign having appeared on the Wednesfield Road inbound. SY added that signage did not make clear whether or not cyclists were permitted to enter the newly-restricted area of Princess St from the southern end. TP advised his understanding was that cyclists were not prohibited from using any bus lanes and were permitted to enter Princess St, but would investigate the signage issues.

4. Infrastructure

a. Meeting 27 July re Metro Extension

This meeting was called to consider comments on the Metro Extension proposals by SY. It was attended by representatives of Centro and AECOM as well as SY, and MJ and David Wilson of Wolves on Wheels. The meeting recognised the concerns expressed but it was emphasised that the physical constraints of the site and the limited options available for mitigation meant that the current proposals were the best outcome that could realistically be achieved. It was noted that the design of the new station and the future use of the “Banana Yard” would have a significant impact on the desire lines and potential conflicts between pedestrians and cyclists.
The meeting agreed that clear signage would again be important to a successful outcome.

b. City centre works

TP advised that the Princess St/Market St/Garrick St contraflow route was progressing well, and that designs for further works in the City Centre such as Toucan crossings and shared use pavements on the ring road were being developed.
MJ raised a concern about a flower display stand in Market St which was obscuring visibility. TP advised he understood this was movable but would check.
CT asked how the new bus shelters installed in Queen Square would function should the original Public Realm proposal ever be implemented. TP advised that under that circumstance no buses or other motor vehicles would be permitted to travel eastbound and the stops on the relevant side of the road would be redeployed.
TP was asked how upgrading of the NCN81 signage was progressing. He advised it had been included in the programme for the Managing Short Trips project and he expected to have a clear idea of a delivery schedule at the next meeting.

c. Mainline Canal Towpath

TP advised this scheme was soon to begin, providing an all-weather surface from Aldersley Junction to Dixon Street, forming an important strategic link in the cycling network. The option of providing lighting at the Railway Drive tunnel was also being considered. WS reminded the meeting of a concern over visibility at certain bridges along this stretch of canal. TP said he would look into any options for resolving this.

d. Wednesfield Way

TP advised that a notional scheme had been developed for a route along Wednesfield Road/Wednesfield Way from the Ring Road to Lakefield Road. Reviewing the scheme it was found that it would be desirable for some footpaths to be designated shared use to be widened to meet relevant design standards, and that some aspects of the continuity needed more in depth consideration. We had decided therefore not to proceed with a sub-standard scheme but invest more development time and seek a budget appropriate to the scale of a better quality scheme. It was noted that a sign/road marking denoting a cycle route crossing from the carriageway to the footpath near to the Ring Road had been erased sometime recently without explanation. TP agreed to look into this.


5. Active Travel Strategy

TP advised that the Active Travel Strategy was nearing final draft form and was on course for being presented to the Cabinet meeting on December 9 for approval. A stakeholder meeting had been held recently, attended by several Forum members, to discuss the general principles of the strategy. These had been well received in the main. TP reminded the Forum the ATS incudes a commitment to developing a comprehensive and attractive network of walking and cycling routes throughout the city. CT responded that developing the ATS appeared to be moving things in the right direction and that he hoped it would result in the scale of enhancement desired.

6. Wolves on Wheels

CT advised that WOW had attended the ATS stakeholder meeting and repeated that it all seemed very positive in principle, but that outcomes were what mattered.

WOW had also attended the City Show and distributed their promotional material.

Further to discussions at the beginning of the meeting CT expressed interest in engaging with PACT groups.

7. There was no report from Sustrans

8. There was no report from Canals & Rivers Trust.

A query was raised about how CRT would alert users to towpath closures relating to the upcoming work. TP said he would investigate.

9. Any Other Business

JRa advised that cyclists were seen in a negative light by some, and said he would be interested in hearing views on cycling on footpaths.

TP was asked how the development of the new station building might affect cyclists. He agreed to seek information on this

It was suggested it would be good to vary the meeting night from Thursday as some members were persistently unable to attend. The meeting agreed and TP said he would seek to book meetings for 2016 on an alternating basis.

 


Draft Agenda

 

1. Apologies

2. Minutes of the last meeting (16 October 2014)

3. Matters Arising not covered elsewhere in agenda

4. Infrastructure

a. Meeting 27 July re Metro Extension
b. City centre works
c. Mainline Canal Towpath
d. Wednesfield Way


5. Active Travel Strategy - update

6. Wolves on Wheels

7. Sustrans

8. Canals & Rivers Trust

9. Any Other Business

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